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zairuka
poker time!He can be come next god of gamble.he look funny when he is evil.he has krory's teeth when he play poker(sharp teeth)
Jasper
SATAN VS. ALLAN WALKER.
TONIGHT, ON THE POKER CHANNEL.
ken-chan
Whaa??? =P What are you talking about?

I wish I were as great at cheating as Allen! happy.gif
Armads
QUOTE(Jasper @ Jun 3 2007, 12:11 PM) [snapback]51418[/snapback]

SATAN VS. ALLAN WALKER.
TONIGHT, ON THE POKER CHANNEL.



........................................uh huh.....*getting confused*
Jasper
It was a joke on the whole "dark side of Allan" thing. Also, since the Devil and Allan are probably the biggest cheaters..in card games.
Sessho
I love Allen when he cheats in cards. XD I wish he played with Kanda and Lavi. ;)
lenalesca
Well Lavi already knows Allen cheats so I doubt he'll agree to a game. Kanda will probably start slashing things up when the games turns bad for him.
fuji
i dun know why i got this feeling that i will like to see Allen lose in gamble
Impel Down
Yeah, what if Allen played someone else who cheats? How would that work out?
lenalesca
I thought when Allen played Tyki and his two pals all three of them were cheating anyway. Allen just cheats better? >.> does that work?
Suirei 'Night Eye' Kamiosan
Well Allen learned how to cheat from Cross...so if they were to face each other, Allen would lose.

That game would be awesome to see..

...If it was shown on the poker channel.
syang70
Allen is funny when he cheats~
I just felt sorry for Krory in that episode
lol he's so evil.
We have to thank General Cross for that
Impel Down
Well, and Allen looks so innocent when he cheats, so no one suspects him.
DragonSpeaker
QUOTE(Impel Down @ Jun 26 2007, 01:47 PM) [snapback]61731[/snapback]

Well, and Allen looks so innocent when he cheats, so no one suspects him.


True! Is his normal face his poker face then? blink.gif
Impel Down
well, it looks like he smiles really nicely, so no one suspects him.
brokenmarionette
After watching it, I finally understood this phrase:Smile,It confuses people. Oh yeah, which Episode is it when allen mentioned his master?Look at the pic:
Tombow
Yay for evil Allen! XD Or else he's gonna be a complete Harry Stu.

I just love it when he cheats...in card games or in anything.
Vesparte
Has anyone noticed the Parrallels with the Earl's grin?
Shilen
well no but since their sword's are the opposite of each other, more parallels are not surprising smile.gif
gorbal
I wonder if anything else would turn him "black" lol! I thought he was going to turn black when (highlight manga spoiler) General Cross was gettinga little to friendly with Linalee.
Shiho
Who doesn't love Black Allen? tongue.gif

But, he cheated.. I wonder how it will turn out when he's not cheating..
Probably an easy lose..
gorbal
Maybe he is just pretending to be nice so he can get more hugs from Lenalee.
gorbal
I wonder if Allen Walker's eye is made of dark matter.
DarkLaviLover
i would pay a lot of money to see allen lose a poker game!!!!

QUOTE(fuji @ Jun 9 2007, 10:35 AM) [snapback]53877[/snapback]

i dun know why i got this feeling that i will like to see Allen lose in gamble


so would i...


QUOTE(Suirei 'Night Eye' Kamio @ Jun 15 2007, 02:21 PM) [snapback]56858[/snapback]

Well Allen learned how to cheat from Cross...so if they were to face each other, Allen would lose.

That game would be awesome to see..

...If it was shown on the poker channel.



that would be awesome....
gorbal
You guys just wanna see Allen shirtless, sheesh, how old is he? unsure.gif

I have this new theory...Allen Walker is really evil!!!! Whuahahahahahahah!!!

All that nicey nice stuff is just an act.
SaintArthas
Well, his Innocence IS called the Crowned Clown. So maybe that's his true personality, he appears all innocent and all that when he cheats and just laughs, acting like a clown.
[spoiler=spolier]Perhaps the dark shadow he always sees in reflective surfaces is his alter ego that arrised due to Cross' training? I have a hunch that sometime in the future Allen may become the 14th Noah and gain Noah powers. Clown-like is his personality.[/spoiler]
gorbal
Maybe Allen himself is a modified Akuma.
DarkLaviLover
thats an interesting idea...but i think not.....he may have some sort of akuma deal

akuma deal:
if they loose--> he kills them
if they win----> he kills em anyway....
gorbal
His eye seems tied to the Akuma at least. At any rate, I still wonder if Cross didn't experiment on Allen.
Any
I want allen as my master!!
I want to know how to cheat. I know a bit, but.... I lose most of the time.
I want to be as allen.
Im a litle inocent girl, so no one will suspect me, just the same as allen.
Mori Mitsu
QUOTE (gorbal @ Jan 6 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Maybe Allen himself is a modified Akuma.


I don't think so. If he is an akuma, he will not have innocence or be able to activate innocence.
Innocence destroys Dark Matter; that is an unchanged fact and steadfast rule.

Even Chomesuke (as Lavi nicknamed her), the modified friendly akuma able to suppress the urge to kill humans, was hurt by Lenalee's innocence as she carried Lenalee from being sunk in the sea.

I don't think General Marian Cross was so capable to be able to modify akuma such that the basic nature of Dark Matter within them can coexist with Innocence even if he was able to modify & create an akuma as intelligent and similar to a human.

QUOTE (SaintArthas @ Jan 6 2008, 09:28 AM) *
Well, his Innocence IS called the Crowned Clown. So maybe that's his true personality, he appears all innocent and all that when he cheats and just laughs, acting like a clown.
Perhaps the dark shadow he always sees in reflective surfaces is his alter ego that arrised due to Cross' training? I have a hunch that sometime in the future Allen may become the 14th Noah and gain Noah powers. Clown-like is his personality


Maybe dry.gif But I disagree with the dark shadow that-only-he-can-see being the result of General Cross' training.
Personally, I don't think Marian Cross is that bad that people can get traumatic experiences with him, Hoshino sensei just loves to exaggerate by making the Noahs & Allen exaggerate their trauma with Cross. tongue.gif

After reading the flashbacks about Skin Bolic's past & how he turned into a Noah, in the fight chapter between him & kanda, the theory seems very probable.

Skin Bolic went thru pain & desperation & suffering + the images of the world's end (memories of Noah) before he turned into a Noah finally. After all, Allen has gone thru absolute fear & desperation during his near-death encounter with Tkki which cost him his left arm and glimpsed a future of bleak destruction in the final battle with the Earl in the dreamy cartoonish landscape where he stood beside a lake with the cresent moon reflected in the water.

Then his cursed eye evolved during his stay in the Asian branch, not to say that his cursed eye is strange from the start in the way it connects to akuma by directly letting Allen see the condemned souls in akuma and feel & hear their cries. Moreover, it is not a power given to Allen by Innocence.

His Innocence saved him by becoming particles to fill up the empty hole in Allen's heart left by Tkki's hand, an unprecedented happening never before recorded (Lenelee's case is also exception but the way her thoughts can communicate thru to other excorcists thru their Innocence makes me think hers is the "Heart"), not even in Bookman's hidden records. Then how Allen's Innocence later evolve into "Crowned Clown"... dry.gif

When he is able to reconnect and prevent the original Noah's Ark from crumbling by being able to "play the piano" the control of the Ark, in "the 14th's secret room" and seeing the dark shadow in the reflected glass in the "secret room", it makes the theory even more suspicious. Moreover, the Earl once reflected in wrath the black sheep of the Noah family, "the fourteenth transfered the rights of the "Performer" to a human" & Inspector Rouvelier (Mr Hitler Reincarnate) " It was in an old man's house... In the 14th's will, it had stated he was killed by the Earl. But passed on his powers".

The "Performer" is the person who controls the operations of the Ark. And to be able to do so, the "Performer" MUST have Had the POWERS OF THE NOAH!

Also, the "Crowned Clown" further evolved in the latest chapters, giving Allen a sword the exact polar opposite to the Earl's in essence but the very exact parallel in form. Therefore it is very likely that Allen may develop into a Noah. But one that is against the Earl & the Noah family. dry.gif
Mori Mitsu
Gomen, I had to break the serious lengthy stuff & the lighter ones apart.

QUOTE (Impel Down @ Jun 9 2007, 11:40 PM) *
Yeah, what if Allen played someone else who cheats? How would that work out?


QUOTE (Suirei 'Night Eye' Kamio @ Jun 16 2007, 03:21 AM) *
Well Allen learned how to cheat from Cross...so if they were to face each other, Allen would lose.

That game would be awesome to see..

...If it was shown on the poker channel.


The two posts above piqued the humorous side of my curiosity. Yea~ Pitting Cross and Allen together will be very fun (especially Allen's reaction to his master wink.gif )

If put those two together combined in cards, no one can win against them. I'm sure (Evil Allen + Tempermental Cross) biggrin.gif

Unless the person who plays against them together is both a very strong telepath and telekinetist combined (My guess ok? )

Being both telepathic and telekinetic, the person can detect their thoughts while they play & know when they cheat (telepathy) then the person can switch & change cards all at once undetected within a flash of a second during shuffling or when they pick the cards (telekinetic, provided he/she is very skilled & manipulative with this power). cool.gif
Number01Zero
o_0 i though allen was going to turn black when he first met lulubella-noah and he got hit by the akuma poison. and his face went black and he had a evil-ish grin for a split second.... so does that mean he would turn black and his noah ablilities awaken...... if he didnt have innocences in his left hand???? i wonder....?
gorbal
QUOTE (SaintArthas @ Jan 5 2008, 08:28 PM) *
Well, his Innocence IS called the Crowned Clown. So maybe that's his true personality, he appears all innocent and all that when he cheats and just laughs, acting like a clown.
spolier
Perhaps the dark shadow he always sees in reflective surfaces is his alter ego that arrised due to Cross' training? I have a hunch that sometime in the future Allen may become the 14th Noah and gain Noah powers. Clown-like is his personality.



He does have quit the poker face.smile.gif

Come on, living with Cross that long...He may be a good guy but he's got to be hiding some DARK feelings.
Shinonin
I want to have card skills too!I wish Allen Walker was real!He could teach me a thing or too on gambling! biggrin.gif
Kitz
He is a smart cheater......I wana be like him to earn my own money
gorbal
I just got volumn 8 last week, and there was a special picture of Allen's bedroom. I understand the scary masks, gruesome pictures, and strange creatures in bottles...but why the handcuffs?
God's Clown
@ Mori Mitsu

I agree with your theory.

The only person that I have in mind when they mentioned the PERFORMER is Mana Walker. He's one mysterious character who died from Allen's hands right? He's also the one who gave the Cursed Left Eye on Allen. But if he did turn into an Akuma - then how are going to categorize him as part of the Noah Family being the 14th Noah?

Even so, it's very probable that Allen is the Destroyer of Time but not the one who holds the Heart of Innocence. (he's got one weird path~ saving the Humans as well as the Demons)
Mori Mitsu
Well hi God's Clown, thanks for appreciating my post smile.gif

If I didn't remember wrongly, I think during Allen's first encounter with the Noah - with Road Camelot, Road said that they are also humans and tried to toy Allen by letting him confirm her humanity (but she later added that they are superhumans who directly inherited the genes of Noah, the ancestor of all common mankind now). Which, of course, confused Allen as his left eye could not detect any condemned souls seen in an akuma, evidence she is "Human".

Noahs are thought to be immortal but this said theory is proven wrong when Skin Bolic is killed by Kanda Later.
Also, the Millennium Earl himself also mentioned that the 14th was killed by him for transfering the "Performer" rights to a human, while explaining the past history of why can't the original Ark teleport elsewhere to Jasdebi & Debitto during the Edo capital fight (where "Tyki Pon" was having fun with the Cross team biggrin.gif ).

This 2 above-mentioned instances are all evidence that the Noah are "Human" in that they do experience Death, as all humans do.
QUOTE (God's Clown @ Mar 11 2008, 11:34 AM) *
The only person that I have in mind when they mentioned the PERFORMER is Mana Walker. He's one mysterious character who died from Allen's hands right? He's also the one who gave the Cursed Left Eye on Allen. But if he did turn into an Akuma - then how are going to categorize him as part of the Noah Family being the 14th Noah?

Ah God's Clown, Mana Walker is also the one who invented & then share the symbols of the Ark control's musical score with Allen when he's a child.(ah the young Allen writing with a stick in the snow with Mana scene?? Hmm?)

My guess is since Noahs Can DIE, they must have SOULs, therefore they can be resurrected as Akuma too by having their Souls called back, regardless of what their identity were when alive. My other guess is: the dead Mana Walker whom Allen has summoned back as an akuma with the Earl's help is the alleged 14th Noah who pass on his powers and "Performer Rights" to Allen. Same as yr thoughts cool.gif
God's Clown
@ Mori Mitsu-san

Thank you for filling up these theories. It's really obvious that I'm somewhat confused ahaha. Thanks for the clarification smile.gif

QUOTE
My guess is since Noahs Can DIE, they must have SOULs, therefore they can be resurrected as Akuma too by having their Souls called back, regardless of what their identity were when alive.


This really strengthen my belief that Mana Walker is the 14th happy.gif
gorbal
It seems as if some spirit has infested Allen's eye, perhaps Mana's soul passed into Allen's eye when he destroyed the Akuma.
Mori Mitsu
QUOTE (gorbal @ Mar 13 2008, 12:38 AM) *
It seems as if some spirit has infested Allen's eye, perhaps Mana's soul passed into Allen's eye when he destroyed the Akuma.


Maybe dry.gif

When it first evolved in Kory's castle in the fight against Eliade, the mark materalized into a skull-like cursed spirit something before settling into the new eye we see transforms each time it senses Akuma.
I believe Allen sorta heard his father Mana during its evolving...

But didn't all the condemned souls of Akuma gain release from their akuma body & reach heaven after being destroyed by Innocence in Exorcists as was shown in earlier episodes with Allen exorcising Akumas? huh.gif

I think perhaps Mana left a portion of his willpower or spirit in the curse mark he gave Allen when he injured Allen's eye as an akuma before he was destroyed by Allen's awakened claw.
So Mana's soul may be resting in Heaven but his will & spirit is with Allen in Allen's cursed eye. blink.gif

And I'm speculating in the latest manga chapters the black shadow Allen sees in the reflected glass and mirrors after his first encounter with it in "14th's secret room" aka the Ark's piano room, is Mana's spirit. I guess he is able to see the shadow becos of his cursed left eye.

Though I won't want a dead spirit following me wherever I go. That's scary blink.gif
gorbal
Yes he says "Hello Mana" when his eye forms again... the eys is near the brain and he seems to have a weird connection to the Akuma...it adds up.
Fueru
He was great at cheating at poker,but somehow he is scary... blink.gif
gorbal
QUOTE (Mori Mitsu @ Mar 11 2008, 10:18 AM) *
Well hi God's Clown, thanks for appreciating my post smile.gif
(snip)

My guess is since Noahs Can DIE, they must have SOULs, therefore they can be resurrected as Akuma too by having their Souls called back, regardless of what their identity were when alive. My other guess is: the dead Mana Walker whom Allen has summoned back as an akuma with the Earl's help is the alleged 14th Noah who pass on his powers and "Performer Rights" to Allen. Same as yr thoughts cool.gif



When you think about it, who knows what other powers or abilities may have been passed on to him.
Trinny
The fact that the always nice and happy Allen has a dark side is really amusing laugh.gif
gama-sannin
QUOTE (Suirei 'Night Eye' Kamio @ Jun 15 2007, 10:21 PM) *
Well Allen learned how to cheat from Cross...so if they were to face each other, Allen would lose.

That game would be awesome to see..

...If it was shown on the poker channel.


am i afraid not alllen learnt to cheat to pay all cross's debts n things

or by dah way if diz is sum old ting soz peeps
fartycloud
haha dark side may be for hilarious effect but if you really think seriously, it relfects the sad childhood that he was brought up in
Fueru
That's may be true^^
The Pierrot of Bethlehem
QUOTE (gorbal @ Dec 15 2007, 11:14 AM) *
I wonder if anything else would turn him "black" lol! I thought he was going to turn black when (highlight manga spoiler) General Cross was gettinga little to friendly with Linalee.


Oh i loevd that part where lavi, kanda ,chaoji and allen left lenalee wif cross n dey were like " Allen, u left that 16 year old gal wif a womaniser" paused... n den dat scene. That horrified allen, chaoji, lavi and kanda page. Omg ness i laughed my ass out on dat part. XD laugh.gif
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